Ben and Corinne had a conversation about Corinne's background and her work in workplace strategy. They discussed the broken relationship between American society and work, and the need to improve it in order to achieve a better future of living.
Ben and Corinne discussed the broken relationship with work and the need for companies to rethink how work gets done, including creating new systems and ways for people to generate their work and engendering trust in employees. They also talked about the importance of measuring what is a genuinely valuable investment of time, money, and effort within an organization.
Ben and Corinne discussed the implementation of a flexible work model that prioritizes productivity and results. They also talked about the need to evaluate and measure the effectiveness of this model, as well as the potential role of AI in improving communication and reducing unnecessary meetings.
Corinne, Ben, and others discussed the need to make meetings more efficient and effective by using AI tools to capture discussions and create measurable actions. They also explored the changing role of middle managers and the need to reposition and repurpose their role within organizations.
Corinne discussed her anti-hustle culture thesis with Ben, explaining that she believes hustle culture has taken people away from connecting with others and where they are. They also discussed the importance of meeting people where they are and acknowledging their concerns and fears when trying to create change.
Ben and Corinne discussed the negative effects of hustle culture and the importance of work-life balance. They also talked about the duality of needing to combine traits and virtues to be an effective civilization. They expressed interest in seeing how organizations implement these ideas in the future and possibly doing follow-up case studies.